the ugly truth
Pianka and Mims
I'm getting some email requests to state my opinion on some claims by Forrest M. Mims. Mims attended a talk by Eric Pianka, in which he claims Pianka advocated the "slow and torturous death of over five billion human beings." I wasn't there, and I don't know exactly what was said, but I will venture a few opinions and suggestions.
- I assure you that biologists do not have a secret plan to deliberately murder nine-tenths of the planet's human beings in order to make room for more bacteria. The suggestion is ludicrous and is little more than an absurd conspiracy theory.
- There's another account of the talk online. It mentions nothing of a plan to intentionally infect people with airborne ebola and kill a majority of the people on Earth. Pianka does clearly state that the planet is overpopulated and that we cannot sustain our growth, and may have already exceeded what we can maintain at a desirable style of living. That's the kind of thing an audience of ecologists would readily agree to, and is a truth they would applaud as an honest and strongly stated opinion.
- Forrest Mims is not a credible source. He is a disgruntled creationist (...)
- I suspect that what we have here is a vocal scientist who tactlessly spoke an unpleasant truth—we are burning through the resources of our world at a prodigious and unsustainable rate, heedless of the future, and we can expect Nature in the form of a devastating disease to strike back
May the maker bless Eric Pianka.
I've said it myself, and I believe it. "Humanity as a whole has all the brains of an algae bloom." A perpetually growing population is not an entitlement such that your fucking real estate can go up in value. There is no real difference for human culture if one were to compare a global population of 1 billion people and 9 billion people, except 9 billion people will consume Earth Services faster than they can be replaced.
Further, there is no difference between a population of 100 million and 20 billion, except that 20 billion people would, after eating all the fish in the ocean, start harvesting the scabrous critters that live off the black smokers, as a last ditch effort to maintain their squalid way of life.
Shall we sit on our throne of bleached corral and wait for the end, or will humans manage population with eyes wide open? And BY THE WAY, death camps are not what I am suggesting. Rather, contraception. Wrap the Pope in a huge condom.
The truth hurts. It is getting harder to ignore.
posted by JMS @ 1:55 AM
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"Fuck the pope. The truth hurts. It is getting harder to ignore."
If people take your advice that will certainly be true for the pope :-)
The truth is ugly - but I'm still of the belief that a smart race of humans could maintain the population at 6 billion without turning the planet into a smoking desert.
Unfortunately the fact that we're acting like a bunch of crazy fundamentalist chimps does put yet another dent in my belief systems...
Speaking of the pope, did you ever read any of the RI posts on him ? Scary stuff (in a completely out there sort of way)...
Maybe I was too easy on the Pope. He hardly deserves a good fucking. I will amend my post.
RERI, I don't think there is any difference in the way people act now, and the way they acted 1000 years ago. There is always a lag in news regarding what the most powerful are actual doing with their discretionary time and income.
Eventually, the truth on this era will come out, around the time capitol hill in Seattle is an island.
* According to the Seguin Gazette-Enterprise news report on the incident:
"Responding to these very questions, Pianka said, “Good terrorists would be taking [Ebola Roaston and Ebola Zaire] so that they had microbes they could let loose on the Earth that would kill 90 percent of people.“"
I can't believe your backing this person up... your a fucking retard. It is not about if humankind is comparable to an algae, virus etc it is about suggesting EBOLA or other diseases to kill off humankind. He only talks to people that agree on his theories of humankind being a destructive being to earth. Forrest M. Mims also wrote ... "Something curious occurred a minute before Pianka began speaking. An official of the Academy approached a video camera operator at the front of the auditorium and engaged him in animated conversation. The camera operator did not look pleased as he pointed the lens of the big camera to the ceiling and slowly walked away."
your really sick people for backing up this person. hope that ebola gets you first!
Having just read this: How is Pianka stating "what a good terrorist" would do (thereby giving one the idea) any different from the normal news media? I can't count the number of times these morons have given the best targets and ideas in their stories and comments. The so-called "experts" state it all the time. And get quoted. Usually with something like "because security is lax and will remain so even though we've pointed out the holes to the government." The problem with intelligence is a total lack of uncommon sense. (It used to be called "common sense" but take a look around.
Posting anonymously because I don't feel like creating another un/pw.
Look, you assholes, I want to live and so do most other sane people. If we're no different than bacteria then when other bacteria are able to overtake us, so be it, but you can go fuck yourself if you think assisting the process is a good idea. Until it happens naturally, I say it's survival of the fittest and may the weakest bacteria lose. You think other species would toss themselves off a cliff to save the weakest link? Give me a fucking break.
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